Orci and Kurtzman Back Away From T:ROTF’s Racist Bots

by Liam on June 25, 2009 · 10 comments

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Screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman are having a pretty good year, regardless of what you think of their most recent releases, Star Trek and Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen. Without a doubt, these two are the biggest screenwriting duo currently working, with their next screenplay being the blockbuster-sized Cowboys and Aliens for Dreamworks.

However, Revenge Of The Fallen happens to feature two possible racist robots, Skids and Mudflap, who talk in ebonics, constantly bicker, can’t read and one even has a gold buck-tooth. Add their ape-like build and the fact that T:ROTF is aimed at children, and the internet goes up-in-arms about racial stereotypes that have no reason being in the film.

As quickly as possible, the PR machine has hit the digital streets to quash the uproar the likes of which I haven’t seen since Jar Jar Binks. AP managed to corner Bay:

Director Michael Bay insists that the bumbling ‘bots are just good clean fun.

“We’re just putting more personality in,” Bay said. “I don’t know if it’s stereotypes — they are robots, by the way. These are the voice actors. This is kind of the direction they were taking the characters and we went with it.”

If these characters weren’t animated and instead played by real black actors, “then you might have to admit that it’s racist,” [Tasha Robinson, associate entertainment editor at The Onion] said. “But stick it into a robot’s mouth, and it’s just a robot, it’s OK.”

But if they’re alien robots, she continued, “why do they talk like bad black stereotypes?”
Bay brushes off any whiff of controversy.

“Listen, you’re going to have your naysayers on anything,” he said. “It’s like is everything going to be melba toast? It takes all forms and shapes and sizes.”

Bay obviously doesn’t care if he’s created racist characters and pointed those stereotypes directly at an audience of children, but Orci and Kurtzman seem to be distancing themselves from the decision to include the Twins, something they insist Bay told them to put in the script (hence their near-total absence from the finale sequence).

From Film School Rejects:

They’ve already claimed in other interviews that the gold tooth and several other elements were Michael Bay’s idea, but when I talked to them, they moved beyond that to claim they were disappointed by the characters.

Cole: I heard that the gold tooth was Michael Bay’s idea, but do you have any response to those who found The Twins offensive?

Orci: Number one, we sympathize. Yes, the gold tooth was not in the script, that’s true.

Kurtzman: It’s really hard for us to sit here and try to justify it.I think that would be very foolish, and if someone wants to be offended by it, it’s their right. We were very surprised when we saw it, too, and it’s a choice that was made. If anything, it just shows you that we don’t control every aspect of the movie.

Cole: Were you offended by them?

Kurtzman: I wasn’t thrilled. I certainly wasn’t thrilled.

Orci: Yeah, same reaction. I’m not easily offended, but when I saw it, I thought, ‘Someone’s gonna write about that.’”

Smart move, guys, just point towards your director and run the eff away! Live to write predictable tent-pole films another day!

  • http://www.myspace.com/kurotsurugi The_Strongest_There_Is

    This is the same type of crap i wrote about on the last Michael Bay post. The writer of this article and his obvious bias towards Michael Bay. Anyone who backs this argument of racist robots is the same type of person who would point out that you “have to be coocoo for coco puffs but frosted flakes are GRRRREAT!”. Come the F on people. First of all, no director even if he is racist is stupid enough to get racist in a film that is suppose to be a blockbuster and will ultimate pull in hundred of millions of dollars. No matter how cocky you Crit bastards may think they are. If he says it was just them putting more attitude into the characters and personalities into the robots, then that's what it was suppose to be. Jazz in the first movie was obviously modeled after a hip talking black guy stereotype, but he was the most liked robot in the film because he had the most personality out of them all, other than the honorable optimus prime. As far as ebonics and not being able to read, among other attributes: THE ENTIRE school system and society has been in a decline for years (moreso I'd say the people have been failing it), and its not just affecting black people. I merely ask you this: Who's being racist by associating these robots with black people. Michael Bay or You!? I'm black and I can read and write and I dont have gold teeth. Don't call other people racist to calm your own negative minds.

  • SteevoGer

    totally Agree with the one above me…people who bitch about that are on the same level for me as people who sue McDonalds because they became fat.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Gonzales/812694 Dave Gonzales

    I've been re-reading this since your comment and still haven't seen where I show any bias towards or against Michael Bay. Actually, I reference the internet going crazy about the 'bots and linked to the Associated Press and an interview with the writers. I'm sorry you feel like I have anything against Bay, I assure you it's usually quite the opposite.

  • santa

    I find this funny because all actions are stereotypes now. I'm sure that Optimus was white because of how he was speaking in the movie? Oh wait….he's a freaking robot. Metal and plastic with a voice added. If it was racist or intended to be I don't think they would have put it in a major film, and I also don't think the voice actors would have done it. Wasn't one of the voices the spongebob guy? Yeah, spongebob is a racist oh and he's gay…buy stereotypes! Let's make that into news :) Please quit trying to blow up crap when there really isn't anything there. I never noticed a gold tooth. Must have missed that one.

  • http://www.myspace.com/kurotsurugi The_Strongest_There_Is

    Let me Quote, where you said what im talking about

    “Bay obviously doesn’t care if he’s created racist characters and pointed those stereotypes directly at an audience of children”

    This sentence obviously denies Bay any innocence in the matter. It says,” Michael Bay is insensitive to the issue and ignorant to his wrongful actions and execution of an OBVIOUSLY racist part of his movie”

    Im not damning you to crit hell or anything I just get sick of people picking on this guy and not damning people who shouldn't get production deals and still be in hollywood, like Ewe Boll, who seems to keep getting chances. Transformers 2 Rocked the sox off of the first one and everything that Michael Bay said would be bigger was bigger. I felt like a kid again and thats all i can ask for these days. May go see it a 3rd time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Gonzales/812694 Dave Gonzales

    Now that my Transformers review is actually up, I hope my feelings towards Michael Bay and this film in particular are cleared up.

    I just thought that the last quote from him in the above AP piece conveyed an attitude of not caring. He has said that the Twins were for children.

    Sorry if a little bit of assumption came in there, I didn't mean it to!

  • flyboyed277

    lisen i am tyred of reading,listening and hering tha skidz and mudflap r racist you need to do a back grownd check b4 u label something as racist.
    number1 skidz and mudflap cant be racist becoze ther F******* ROBOTS HOW CAN 2 ROBOTS B RAICT USE YOUR F****** BRAIN R TARD.
    NUMBER 2 THAY ONLY TALK LYK DAT BECOZ THER LERN ENGLISH THRO THE INTERNET U STUPID MUGGZ IF UV SEEN TRANSFORMERS 1 OPTIMUS SED 2 SAM WE LERN EARTHS LANGUIGES THRU THE WORLD WYD WEB THATS Y JAZZ SPOKE LYK THAT
    NUMBER 3 THER TEENZ THATS Y THER LITEL THATS Y THAY SPEEK SLANG AND THATS Y THER HY PITCH DERERERERE
    NUMBER 4 I UR NOT BLACK AND UR AFENDID Y R U GITTIN INVOLVED DID SKIDZ OR MUDFLAP SAY NIGGA NOOOO DID HE CALL ENNY BODY A NIGGA NO DID HE EVEN AFEND WHITE PPL NOOO DID HE CALL SAME,LEO OR MIKELER A CRAKA NOOO SO STOP CALM DA F DOWN
    and da only reason skidz has a gold tooth is to tell them apart skidz has da tooth mudflap has the dore wings its that simple now can we stop the f****** investagation if ur dat boverd u must be the won dast racist.

    os ill be back to clere eneything up pease

  • flyboyed277

    i igree with the ferst comment at the top your apsallotly rite jazz was my favrot charicter not becoze he was black but becoz he was the caricter i reberd the fierst time i watcht transformers

  • flyboyed277

    lisen i am tyred of reading,listening and hering tha skidz and mudflap r racist you need to do a back grownd check b4 u label something as racist.
    number1 skidz and mudflap cant be racist becoze ther F******* ROBOTS HOW CAN 2 ROBOTS B RAICT USE YOUR F****** BRAIN R TARD.
    NUMBER 2 THAY ONLY TALK LYK DAT BECOZ THER LERN ENGLISH THRO THE INTERNET U STUPID MUGGZ IF UV SEEN TRANSFORMERS 1 OPTIMUS SED 2 SAM WE LERN EARTHS LANGUIGES THRU THE WORLD WYD WEB THATS Y JAZZ SPOKE LYK THAT
    NUMBER 3 THER TEENZ THATS Y THER LITEL THATS Y THAY SPEEK SLANG AND THATS Y THER HY PITCH DERERERERE
    NUMBER 4 I UR NOT BLACK AND UR AFENDID Y R U GITTIN INVOLVED DID SKIDZ OR MUDFLAP SAY NIGGA NOOOO DID HE CALL ENNY BODY A NIGGA NO DID HE EVEN AFEND WHITE PPL NOOO DID HE CALL SAME,LEO OR MIKELER A CRAKA NOOO SO STOP CALM DA F DOWN
    and da only reason skidz has a gold tooth is to tell them apart skidz has da tooth mudflap has the dore wings its that simple now can we stop the f****** investagation if ur dat boverd u must be the won dast racist.

    os ill be back to clere eneything up pease

  • flyboyed277

    i igree with the ferst comment at the top your apsallotly rite jazz was my favrot charicter not becoze he was black but becoz he was the caricter i reberd the fierst time i watcht transformers