Could The Golden Compass Be Joined By The Subtle Knife?

I believe that new line messed up in changing the ending. I believe they should have stuck with the ending from the book. You know where Lyra meets her father and he uses Roger to open the portal to the other dimensions. The ending was way far better and left more suspension as to what would happen to Lyra and Lord Asriel. I also believe that the should have left the ice path that happen before Bolvanger in the movie to the end before Asrial used Roger to open the portal. It so would have make a better effect. I believe that is a big problem with the movie. People also thought that it would be longer than 1 hour and 43 minutes. It should have at least be 2 hour and 20 minutes worth. So they could fit more parts in it. I had a friend of mine who was watching it keep asking about parts of it cause there was not enough info about certain things. I thought it would have been longer due to how much there was in the book. kind of like harry potter or Pirates of the Carribean. Pirates was at least two and a half hours and it was awesome. So I know warner bros will probably do better. Please don’t abondon this movie. My friend and I are already looking forward to the Subtle Knife.

Rebecca Hardin

i really want the other movies to be made.

my hubby and i want the sequels to be made, we are both in our late 20's and really enjoyed watching the golden compass…. we felt it could have had more detail in it but other than that it was a wonderful fantasy/adventure movie!!!!

the film was wicked loved it. havent read the book and to anyone saying "well the books much better"….. ….. well obviously they nearly always are, when compared to films which were out at the same time and pitched to the same audience, like bridge to terebithia, stardust etc, this was by far the best im my opinion sequal needed definatly and ifg NLC are pissed it didnt make money then they are to blame fro sellign the rights and pitchign it to the wrong market. lets hope that Deborah is a woman of her word!

frankly i dont care how long a movie goes for as long as its good. i love the golden compass, i really wanted to see the ending but New Line Cinema had to take it out because the “test” audience didn't “like” it. just becasue it didn't perform well at the US doesn;t mean a sequel shouldn't be made.with all the religious protests going on now, i truly believe that warner brothers will not be afraid to make the subtle knife if they are going to.

i know a script has been made, now they are just waiting (dont really know what forthough). As long as the earth still spins, dakota blue richards(lyra) is still growing up. if she gets to old to play lyra for the subtle knife, and if the deleted ending is going to end up for the beginning of the subtle knife, things will just look retarded with a 12 year old lyra in the beginning of the movie and a 16 year old lyra finishing off the movie.

please please please warner bros make the sequels!!! most people in the uk loved the golden compass …i think it is unfair not to as they advertise the first as part of a trilogy ….the ending was left to be continued. After i watched the golden compass (which i was gripped to from the beginning along with my family) i immediatly looked for the 2nd …only to find out there isnt one because new line f*****d up! not our fault …please make them warner bros

So here it is, June of 2010 and I and my granddaughter and her friends are still awaiting the two sequels to the Golden Compass. I have been reading some things about the catholic church complaining, about how it did not make as much as they (whatever) say it should have made domestically, an other things, and I say …so what to all of this! The Golden Compass is probably one of the best movies ever made – and forgive me for saying this – but even better than the Lord of the Rings trilogy which I also loved and have seen many times. So what is going on??? It has been three years and The Subtle knife should have been out two years ago!!!! Lets get them on the screen. And if the movie moguls are just scared little boys cowering in their little offices behind their little expensive desks – watch the Golden Compass again and get some inspiration from this brave and self – knowing little girl! Get the next two movies out now!

I have really mixed feelings on the book series the movie is based on to start with. I was greatly thrilled when I first read the Golden Compass and couldn't wait for more, but found myself falling into the terrifying abyss of Philip Pullman's (the writer) mind. Representing angels as strange spirit beasties that eat your soul or something and have God be some evil tyrant who floats around in the sky on some cloud fortress thing. I realize Philip Pullman is an atheist, but I'm sick and tired of atheists thinking its cool to kill God. More so this film series started off as a mere cash grab around Christmas time to further bash Christianity. Not being Catholic I don't feel as offended as I think a Catholic would be, epecially considering Pullman's representation of nuns, priests, and even the Pope. Nutcases like Pullman need to put down, not built up with all this film crap. I'm glad this film hasn't been made yet or the Amber Spyglass, but if they are the world will become a very dark place…

I am so sick of hearing the overprivileged Christian majority crying about how persecuted it is, just because someone with an opposing viewpoint is allowed to make a case. With so many movies today becoming nothing more than ignorant polemics bashing anyone dedicated to reason and free-thought, there is a dire need for these movies to be made, and the commment that Pullman should be “put down” is equally vile. How hard is it to understand that people exercising their right to publicly disagree with you or doubt your beliefs is not “Christian-bashing”. Talk to me when you find atheists picketing your beloved religious books/movies and throwing their weight around to keep you from having your say. Because that doesn't happen. Because the vast majority of atheists believe in the free exchange of ideas. You can tell me what you think, I can tell you what I think, and we both have the freedom to agree, disagree, or debate the issue. The only people I see “bashing” anyone are the Christian fundementalists, constantly trying to forcibly legislate their own beliefs into their neighbors lives and make sure that all entertainment is Christ-approved (TM), strictly based on their own personal definition of Christ, of course.

Did it ever occur to you that some people might find your own religious beliefs and far-less-subtle outright propaganda to be offensive and ugly and an affront to the dignity of humanity? Atheists find a lot of good in life and a lot to love in life as well. We have families we love, we get married, have kids, and pay taxes. We take pleasure in music and books and movies and pets and all sorts of things. We support all manner of social causes and charities–even more so now that there are outlets we can give to that won't buy bibles with our money instead of food and won't discriminate based on religious bigotry. We have just as much meaning as you do in our lifes. The only difference is we make it ourselves–yes, atheists generally dont' think the universe has some inherent “purpose” but that purpose originates in the human mind, and that in the end we are all really creating our own purpose even when we attribute it to a god. The idea that we can only have happiness or purpose if it is bestowed upon us by an unevidenced cosmic overlord–and that not believing in this unevidenced cosmic overlord will get you fried in hell forever regardless of your behavior–and that any doubt or questioning of this or any idea should be forcibly stamped out of any community ASAP–is a vile concept in the eyes of many if not most of the atheists I know. Yet I see no atheists claiming that you need to be silenced. Argued with, yes, and actively challenged if you try to force it on others, but silenced, no.

Ya know, I found Left Behind and The Passion to be revolting even beyond the obnoxious (and not-very-subtle) proselytizing, and I rarely find a religious-perspective movie that isn't an anvilicious chunck of propaganda being hurled at the viewers, but you dont' see me whining and crying that it needs to be silenced or “put down”.

On top of that, Golden Compass certainly had a doubting angle to it, but it was subtle and mostly emphasized all of the universal positive values that humanity tends to hold dear–that same love of family, friends, and humanity that we all want to encourage. If it helps, I can say that I didn't even find it that overtly atheistic–the message was mostly one of the dangers not only of authoritarian organizations, but on basing authority upon assertions and threats that cannot possibly be proven or backed up–or an insistence that such proof is unnecessary and that blind obedience is a virtue. It renders that authority–and any orders it gives, however atrocious–immune to reason, logic, and critical thought, which are absolutely necessary tools for avoiding tyranny. And these are ideas that I have heard a lot of Christians also adhere to as well–that authority that is sealed off from criticism stands a great chance of becoming oppressive.

Additionally, as has been previously suggested, the only thing about killing god was that the being we have considered to be The God turned out to be a lying angel, and what might be taken from that is WE DON'T KNOW. Is there a god? What does that god want? Could there still be some creator or higher power despite this lying angel? There could be, but as of now nobody actually knows. Could be that we're all wrong–atheists and believers alike–and there is a real god who just hasn't gotten involved yet. Yes, the suggestion is that your Deeply Held Faith isn't the certainty you think it is, but only an abject Fundamentalist could take that as a “bashing”, since I have again had plenty of Christians agree with that sentiment as well, however much they do believe.

But even if it was as overtly atheistic as the religious films are overtly religious, let me repeat: you are in an overprivileged majority. Nearly everything made in this country caters to your delicate sensibilities and overprivileged status. You are not being persecuted just because someone you disagree with gets the chance to make your case, and that would be true even if you were not an overprivileged majority. Disagreement isn't bashing, no one is required to agree with everything you say, and it is extremely uncharitable and unworthy to insist that the minority viewpoints “need” to be “put down”. If your religious beliefs are so delicate that they require special protection from any upsetting words or ideas, then you have a weak and empty faith. Another view I've had agreed with by many Christians.

And don't you realize that an unexamined faith is an empty one? What value do you get out of silencing all voices of doubt? Do you really want the kind of world that the Inquisition made possible, where a single idea must reign supreme and all others must be buried? This is the reason I don't bust a gut every time I find some obnoxious anti-reason polemic in films. I debate the points, explain why it's bull, but I would never go as far as saying that those who disagree with me need to be “put down”, and again, plenty of Christians have agreed with me on that too.

I find it interesting that so many believers feel that they need to silence their opposition. Makes me wonder what they are so worried about, if they feel the need to control and filter the marketplace of ideas to be hostile to all but their own personal beliefs. Sometimes I feel that there is a significant minority (I hope it's a minority) of Christians who would love to return to the “morals and values” of the old world, what with the pious torture and holy violence and nobody ever expecting the Spanish Inquisition, and that these are people who would reinstitute these things in a heartbeat if given the opportunity.

And yet, they always cry persecution if someone disagrees with them. How sad.